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Dallas WTF???
« on: July 07, 2016, 11:43:09 PM »
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  • Supposedly peaceful protest of the shootings tonight. After the rally they think 2 snipers shooting on police, so far 10 officers shot, 3 dead. Active shooters, can't find them as I post this.
     >:(

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #1 on: July 08, 2016, 12:42:48 AM »
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  • Makes me f'n sick! Now 11 officers shot, 4 dead.

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #2 on: July 08, 2016, 01:00:43 AM »
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  • As a canadian its probably not my place to comment but....

    The us goverment / citizens need to have an open and factual discussion on racism, police militarization / killings, and gun control.

    This shit doesnt happen in other 1st world countries at the rate it does in the US.
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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #3 on: July 08, 2016, 01:12:30 AM »
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  • It realistically boils down to police training and quality of recruitment. In other first world countries cops are much more qualified to be cops than the average USA recruitment.  Most have a college degree and understands the law somewhat.  Here a cops main job is really filled up speeding ticket quotas its a wonder more people aren't killed by nervous cops.  I feel bad for the family's of all lives lost but something like this was inevitable.

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #4 on: July 08, 2016, 02:34:30 AM »
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    As a canadian its probably not my place to comment but....

    The us goverment / citizens need to have an open and factual discussion on racism, police militarization / killings, and gun control.
    We do and we have. It's called the first amendment and we have been having an "open and factual discussion" for over 200 years. Here is the result:
    Racism-Not solved. The US is multi-national/multi-ethnic and has many cultures. It's still a source of conflict.
    Police Militarization-Ongoing and a source of consternation from the political left and right.
    Killings and Gun Control-These are not necessarily related. Americans love guns. I love guns. You're not American so you'll never understand. If other first world countries want to understand why Americans are beholden to guns then you gotta go back to 1776. There was an asshole in the UK called, King George who liked to shit on his colonists. He didn't like our guns either but after getting his red coated ass kicked he ultimately came around.  The love of the gun was forever American. There are nearly as many guns as there are people and none of them kill anybody unless somebody pulls the trigger.

    This shit doesnt happen in other 1st world countries at the rate it does in the US.
    That's in part because we're the most populated 1st world country. 320 million at last census(versus Canada's 35.7 million). We're also the most culturally diverse. Furthermore, up until recently we didn't particularly care for socialism/liberalism like other Western nations. I have serious issues with my country but I would never consider the UK, Australia or a fem-ocracy like Canada to live. That's just me though.

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #5 on: July 08, 2016, 04:08:41 AM »
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  • I diffinetly agree, guns are fun. I own multiple including the AR-15. I had to take a 2 day training course. Write an exam and demonstrate to an instructor that i could safely handle various firearms. With the safety course completed i apply to the RCMP for a firearms license. They conduct a criminal record check, and investigate any arrests, domestic issues, divorce, recent job loss, mental health issues and interview 2 people that have known me for at least 10 years.

    Also my name is run everyday agaisnt new criminal records and police reports.

    Im sure people would argue that its excessive, and i would agree, but I dont think its unreasonable to try to prevent unstable people easy access. I agree the 2nd ammendant is an important law based on your past.

    Per capita (100,000) gun deaths is 1.97 (CA) and 10.5 (US)

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2016, 04:52:06 AM »
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  • How does Wikipedia explain the cities with strictest gun control and least amount of people with private gun ownership have the highest gun related homicide?  Not to mention the violence in Mexico where guns are almost banned.

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #7 on: July 08, 2016, 07:52:44 AM »
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  • Latest 11 officers and 1 civilian shot, 5 officers dead.  Downtown Dallas, 36 blocks still on lock down.  1 suspect dead. Still not much details.

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #8 on: July 08, 2016, 09:08:31 AM »
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  • this is terrible and just plain stupid.  i see a rough summer ahead

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #9 on: July 08, 2016, 09:12:04 AM »
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    How does Wikipedia explain the cities with strictest gun control and least amount of people with private gun ownership have the highest gun related homicide?  Not to mention the violence in Mexico where guns are almost banned.
    the reason for that is ewe, when guns are controlled only the bad guys have them and they dont have any fear of a private citizen possibly carrying to get in their way

    very controlled gun cities/states are in essence gun free zones, like schools, churches, mall's , and movie theaters .  the violence happens where the legal wont/cant carry  and the bad guys dont obey the laws and can go in without impunity and extract their brand of violence/terror without the worry of anybody shooting back.

    the old saying, an armed society is a polite society.  the jappenese always said they would not invade america because they knew it would be a door to door fight.  the nazi's. they disarmed the populance before they went on their reign of terror.  imagine how history might have been altered if the jews all had guns as well as the general populance
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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2016, 03:43:03 PM »
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  • Yeppers used to live in south Florida guns saves about 50 people a week from certain death but no one ever reports that on the national news.  I love how Canadians and others can wag a finger at us when they never tried to step foot on south miami and tell us how we should control law abiding citizens from gettng legal guns
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    Yeppers used to live in south Florida guns saves about 50 people a week from certain death but no one ever reports that on the national news.  I love how Canadians and others can wag a finger at us when they never tried to step foot on south miami and tell us how we should control law abiding citizens from gettng legal guns
    those people that wag their finger at guns typicallly do so because they are afraid of them.  they have never owned one, held one and have no intention of doing so.

    there are sane normal people that are not "anti gun " that are still scared to death of them and the way i have seen a couple friends stare at a gun when at my house  i finally asked if they wanted me to put it up. it was almost like they thought that stupid thing was gonna jump up and shoot them.

    told them guns dont kill people, people kill people.  if they outlawed guns, then the bad guys would use ballbats, hammers, u name it.  would probably hurt more.  think about that, the gun is more humane. lmao

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2016, 07:03:12 PM »
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  • The guns didn't magically pick themselves up and begin shooting.  As stated before this was a racial issue, this was a black racist who decided all white cops were out to kill black youths should die and began picking them off while they were protecting mostly black protester in Dallas..... Racists kill people not guns

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    Re: Dallas WTF???
    « Reply #13 on: July 08, 2016, 07:39:24 PM »
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  • Latest is 12 officers shot with 5 killed. 2 Civilians injured.  The guy is the lone gunman according to the latest, a black 25yr old army vet served 8 yrs in Afghanistan.  He was killed by dallas police using a robot with a bomb on it. They did this after all negotiations fell through for 6 hours, and he kept shooting.  He stated he was alone & not with any group. Also he wanted to kill whites, especially white police. He actually lived in the suburb of Dallas where I live, Mesquite. Lived in a house with his mom after returning from service.  Downtown Dallas is still on lockdown with investigations going on and will be for the next week. Prayers for all the victims, both here in Dallas & elsewhere.

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    The guns didn't magically pick themselves up and begin shooting.  As stated before this was a racial issue, this was a black racist who decided all white cops were out to kill black youths should die and began picking them off while they were protecting mostly black protester in Dallas..... Racists kill people not guns
    ur preaching to the choir bubba :D

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    The guns didn't magically pick themselves up and begin shooting.  As stated before this was a racial issue, this was a black racist who decided all white cops were out to kill black youths should die and began picking them off while they were protecting mostly black protester in Dallas..... Racists kill people not guns
    ur preaching to the choir bubba :D

    I know I'm just disgusted by how some will turn this tragedy into some nonsense cause the media tells them to believe in

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    The guns didn't magically pick themselves up and begin shooting.  As stated before this was a racial issue, this was a black racist who decided all white cops were out to kill black youths should die and began picking them off while they were protecting mostly black protester in Dallas..... Racists kill people not guns
    ur preaching to the choir bubba :D

    I know I'm just disgusted by how some will turn this tragedy into some nonsense cause the media tells them to believe in
    i find it amazing that politicians can use the drumbeat of banning "military style" weapons and yet they create gun free zones all over where the illeagal guns run rampant and do nothing to stop them other than to try and ban guns.

    what is even worse, the little sheepie's that see all this going on and believe it

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