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« on: February 17, 2014, 10:58:16 AM »
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  • after a recent trip and problems with fod locating keys for the safes , the doors, etc... this looks like an interesting alternative

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    Re: hotel safes
    « Reply #1 on: February 17, 2014, 10:12:26 PM »
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  • I've seen the Milockie demos before, but I don't know anyone who has actually used one. It seems like a bit of a pain in the ass to use for casual in-and-out use, because of the clamp, twisting, closing away the strap stuff, but probably useful if you're going to be away for a while. The problem is I haven't seen any reviews that can be trusted, don't know anyone who uses one, and haven't seen any other type of competitive product.

    I know that employees have access to the safe, and that really the safe just minimizes or mitigates risk and loss, it doesn't eliminate it, and something for extra surety would be great. The problem with locking luggage, as some guys suggest, is that no one looks twice at people walking in and out of a hotel with luggage, and there's no viable way to lok luggae to stuff that isn't easy to get around.

    Has anybody here used Milockie? If so how difficult is it to use on a casual basis?

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    Re: hotel safes
    « Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 11:31:48 PM »
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  • I usually use the safes at BB and FOD, but I do bring with me on all my travels just in case, a Pacsafe travelsafe 100. It's a bag reenforced with wire and you can loop it around any pipe or permanate piece .
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    Re: hotel safes
    « Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 11:37:03 PM »
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  • A couple of years ago, I was looking very seriously at the Milockie ... but I lost interest when I learned that it's made of plastic. For that price, it ought to be aluminum at the least.

    There might be something worthwhile to the PacSafe, or there might be if your room had some sort of tool-resistant lockdown point to secure it, but in the final accounting you end up at the same place: Locks are to keep honest people honest.

    That said ... this trip, I'm going to give a try to a Master Locks brand "travel safe" I spotted on Amazon. It's only big enough for my passport, keys, ID, cash and credit-cards; but I could lock the safe-key in this, and lock it hidden-away in my luggage, and who would know? At least it's an extra level of "extreme awkwardness" ...

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    Re: hotel safes
    « Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 08:49:09 AM »
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  • I don't really worry about the safes at blackbeards.  the staff has been there for the past millennium and that along with the tight ship that they run, never a problem in regards to the safes in ten year or so there speaks for the relative safety of your private belongings there.

    in the su, many issues at different places over the years.  there are a lot of outside forces there to deal with that u don't have in a compound setting like bb's where just the general layout even lends itself to security not to mention security features many don't see.

    my big issue where I didn't have that warm fuzzy feeling was at fod.  first, they couldn't find keys for the safes.  not just my safe, but my wingman, and also one of the other guys.  also, were told to leave our front door unlocked if we wanted room service.  didn't like that either.   not what I would call secure at all.   fod is a compound type setting but enough foliage to break the view from the bar area to many of the rooms.  in a downtime in the afternoon it would be easy to slip into a room

    I didn't worry about my safe's security when I was around.  it was during the daily trip out of the compound when we left for 4-5 hours with the front door to the room unlocked along with the mysterious location of the safe keys, lack of a key for the maid to make the rooms up, etc...

    it would be nice if there was a way to secure the safe to the point it would make that particular safe one they would skip over 

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    « Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 08:55:45 AM »
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    I don't really worry about the safes at blackbeards ... my big issue where I didn't have that warm fuzzy feeling was at fod.  first, they couldn't find keys for the safes.  not just my safe, but my wingman, and also one of the other guys.  also, were told to leave our front door unlocked if we wanted room service.  didn't like that either.   not what I would call secure at all ... it would be nice if there was a way to secure the safe to the point it would make that particular safe one they would skip over

    The Milockie might be enough for that. I wasn't so satisfied when I learned it was plastic - sounds to me like you could cut it off with less trouble than if it had a metal case - but yes, it might be enough to dissuade a sneak-thief.

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    Re: hotel safes
    « Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 04:46:08 PM »
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    I don't really worry about the safes at blackbeards.  the staff has been there for the past millennium and that along with the tight ship that they run, never a problem in regards to the safes in ten year or so there speaks for the relative safety of your private belongings there.

    in the su, many issues at different places over the years.  there are a lot of outside forces there to deal with that u don't have in a compound setting like bb's where just the general layout even lends itself to security not to mention security features many don't see.

    my big issue where I didn't have that warm fuzzy feeling was at fod.  first, they couldn't find keys for the safes.  not just my safe, but my wingman, and also one of the other guys.  also, were told to leave our front door unlocked if we wanted room service.  didn't like that either.   not what I would call secure at all.   fod is a compound type setting but enough foliage to break the view from the bar area to many of the rooms.  in a downtime in the afternoon it would be easy to slip into a room

    I didn't worry about my safe's security when I was around.  it was during the daily trip out of the compound when we left for 4-5 hours with the front door to the room unlocked along with the mysterious location of the safe keys, lack of a key for the maid to make the rooms up, etc...

    it would be nice if there was a way to secure the safe to the point it would make that particular safe one they would skip over

    Not that I am trying to rip a certain establishment but a guest being told to leave their door unlocked if they want maid service is absolutely ridiculous, especially with all of the chica's on site.

    When  employees such as maids and maintenance have a key to the room at least it promotes some sense of accountability.  When the doors are left unlocked than anyone can enter the room including a guest and there is no way to know who the possible person might be when there is a problem.



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    Re: hotel safes
    « Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 04:59:52 PM »
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    I don't really worry about the safes at blackbeards.  the staff has been there for the past millennium and that along with the tight ship that they run, never a problem in regards to the safes in ten year or so there speaks for the relative safety of your private belongings there.

    in the su, many issues at different places over the years.  there are a lot of outside forces there to deal with that u don't have in a compound setting like bb's where just the general layout even lends itself to security not to mention security features many don't see.

    my big issue where I didn't have that warm fuzzy feeling was at fod.  first, they couldn't find keys for the safes.  not just my safe, but my wingman, and also one of the other guys.  also, were told to leave our front door unlocked if we wanted room service.  didn't like that either.   not what I would call secure at all.   fod is a compound type setting but enough foliage to break the view from the bar area to many of the rooms.  in a downtime in the afternoon it would be easy to slip into a room

    I didn't worry about my safe's security when I was around.  it was during the daily trip out of the compound when we left for 4-5 hours with the front door to the room unlocked along with the mysterious location of the safe keys, lack of a key for the maid to make the rooms up, etc...

    it would be nice if there was a way to secure the safe to the point it would make that particular safe one they would skip over

    Not that I am trying to rip a certain establishment but a guest being told to leave their door unlocked if they want maid service is absolutely ridiculous, especially with all of the chica's on site.

    When  employees such as maids and maintenance have a key to the room at least it promotes some sense of accountability.  When the doors are left unlocked than anyone can enter the room including a guest and there is no way to know who the possible person might be when there is a problem.
    in our case about a month ago our group was pretty well the only guests there. one other.  there was however the girls and a lot of staff running around the place that made me uneasy to leave the door open.

    was told we had to leave the door open after not getting our room serviced the first day. just not right, they don't get the hotel biz, they just don't understand it

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    Re: hotel safes
    « Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 06:20:22 PM »
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  • When I was there at FOD in Sept, the maid had keys cause I locked my door every time I left the room. Just had to open the drapes for service.

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    « Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 07:15:16 PM »
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    When I was there at FOD in Sept, the maid had keys cause I locked my door every time I left the room. Just had to open the drapes for service.

    I locked myself out a few timeS. Most of the windows are unlocked. I was drunk so just climbed through the window.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 09:04:49 PM »
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    When I was there at FOD in Sept, the maid had keys cause I locked my door every time I left the room. Just had to open the drapes for service.

    I locked myself out a few timeS. Most of the windows are unlocked. I was drunk so just climbed through the window.
    I wear my keys on a lanyard around my neck.  don't have to worry about laying the keys down somewhere or a lone key falling out of the pocket when lounging for something stupid when off premise.

    works very well.  always know where my key is and when I get undressed the lanyard goes into the pocket on my pants.  always there when I need it never have to look for it. never

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