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Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
« on: July 20, 2014, 09:55:07 PM »
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  • (Sorry if this topic has already been addressed.  I tried searching for it but didn't find much).

    I'm finally making my second trip to the DR this week.  I made so many mistakes the first time, I was too embarrassed to post a trip report.  Hopefully this trip, I do things right and can post something helpful or at least entertaining. 

    I was wondering if any of you married guys can help me get rid of the last nagging doubts I have about my "business trip" cover story.  I think I've covered all my bases, except I'm concerned that if my wife calls/text me while I'm there she'll be able to determine I'm out of the country...either with extra charges or something that shows my location on her bill.  I'm hoping that any extra charges would only be billed to me since I'm the one out of the country, but I've seen conflicting things when I googled it.  Even my tech savvy friends can't tell me with 100% certainty what would happen.

    I've convinced her to download one of those texting apps and ideally she'll use that exclusively to contact me and she'll never be the wiser.  But I'm thinking of a scenario where she calls me with an emergency or sends a regular text.  If it makes a difference, she has an iPhone with ATT and I have an Android with TMobile.

    Does anyone have any experience with this type of thing?  It's enough of a concern for me, I've actually thought of cancelling the trip.  Not so much because of the wife, but because I have two kids I'd like to continue to see everyday...even as an unhappily married man.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #1 on: July 20, 2014, 10:42:22 PM »
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  • Don't have this problem myself and have not used it, but research - Magic Jack. I've heard it works.  ;D
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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 06:06:50 AM »
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  • Phone calls, even magic jack, will have a problem with the 300dB music at FoD.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 06:56:42 AM »
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  • Traveler,

     I have an AT&T iPhone. Your bill will show charges for foreign roaming/text and calling.

    Might I suggest:
     1. Inadvertantly leaving the phone at home (oops!) thats good for at least a day.
     2. Suggest using email instead of texting for contact. Simply goes to your normal email addy.
    3. Look into skype as well, you could say it is a temp measure because you forgot the phone.

    Skype is spotty at FOD sometimes due to wifi.
    Hope this helps

    Also dont forget i know iPhone has a locator feature,make sure your android doesnt as well.

    Caz
    « Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 07:00:05 AM by CAZ391, Reason: Additional inFo »

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 08:33:48 AM »
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  • As long as you keep your phone with your American or canadian number, you will be fine. The charges will only show on your bill. The problem is it will be a big bill if she calls you, 25-50 cents per text , both ways. You can buy a data and/or texting package before you leave to hold the price down. Also beware of your phone ringing up the price without you touching it. turn off "roaming data" when you are there, unless you bought on of the data packages and then only when are activly using it.

    I use Vonage, it has an app and works good at FOD usually. When I see she calls me, I just don't answer then call her back through Vonage. It is included in my monthly plan and shows my cell number. Remember to TURN OFF you loction information through the phone settings and the app.

    It would be alot easier if your "business trip" was out of the country as well, or at least in a place that would have bad reception. Last but not least, it is very hard to find a quiet place with WiFi at both BB and FOD. This will be the most difficult part.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 11:32:53 AM »
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    As long as you keep your phone with your American or canadian number, you will be fine. The charges will only show on your bill. The problem is it will be a big bill if she calls you, 25-50 cents per text , both ways. You can buy a data and/or texting package before you leave to hold the price down. Also beware of your phone ringing up the price without you touching it. turn off "roaming data" when you are there, unless you bought on of the data packages and then only when are activly using it.

    I use Vonage, it has an app and works good at FOD usually. When I see she calls me, I just don't answer then call her back through Vonage. It is included in my monthly plan and shows my cell number. Remember to TURN OFF you loction information through the phone settings and the app.

    It would be alot easier if your "business trip" was out of the country as well, or at least in a place that would have bad reception. Last but not least, it is very hard to find a quiet place with WiFi at both BB and FOD. This will be the most difficult part.

    I'm going to disagree with Phoenix here, to the extent that calls within North America are fine, but once calls are made to latin America there is usually a message in Spanish to advise what network you're going through (although this varies by country/provider and may or may not apply in all cases) and it will often ring differently too. If your wife knows you're in Latin America that's fine, but if you didn't tell her that to start with then you're screwed.

    You can use phone apps of various types, like whatsapp or Skype, but it's getting harder and harder to avoid video calls if you have those available. Cost/availability of internet/network signal may be a good excuse for this.

    For outbound calls you can solve your problem by using a spoofing program These will display whatever number you want to have shown from your phone, so you can be pretending to be calling from literally anywhere, no matter where you are. I've tried Spooftel to fool my work and it works great. It doesn't solve your inbound call problem though, because you're phone will ring like whatever the local network wants it to ring like, and of course you may get those pesky network messages.

    If price isn't an object then you can use The Alibi Network. For a not insubstantial cost they will set up a cover story for you including a fictitious hotel and front desk service, and a number that rings correctly. They will advise you if anyone calls for you. I'm not 100% sure how much they cost, but reports indictaed that it could beas much as $400-500.00. Ouch.
    « Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 02:26:41 PM by shadowman »

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 01:58:15 PM »
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  • Respect to you Traveler999, and my sympathies to the fact that you're married with children in these United States.  I've been there.  The phone of course is a major issue, and there are other issues of course to consider.  I'd be very careful, because the bills can get very detailed with the location of the incoming call, etc.  There are apps, in addition to Magicjack that can be used to call for free via the Internet.  I use Viber, and now someone told me about Lime (?).  For messaging, Whatsapp is good.  So, the problem would be for when there is no Internet.  If your trip is business related in her mind, tell her that you'll call her after missing her calls or after seeing her texts.  T-Mobile does allow for free international calling via WiFi, but again, for accepting her calls, I wouldn't risk answering them, free or not, since it may show your location on her bill.
    You need to worry about your passport also, in addition to other things we'll discuss in this thread.
    I haven't had to hide a trip for a while, since I'm divorced, but there are many things to consider. 
    How long is your trip?  Lastly, a lot depends on your wife; her level of suspicion, etc.  If she's Dominican, you're already busted, and she just hasn't mentioned it.  They like to reveal these things when you least expect it.
    Watch your computer, pants pockets, wallet, and cell phone.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 03:31:09 PM »
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  • I've never had a call to me have a different ring fir the caller. My wife is frim Latin America and would definately know the difference, also she speaks Spanish so she would understand any message also. It's ugly pretty much any way you cut it. Viber, Skype and Whatsapp calls are best, but how to get your wife to use them. I would claim I was going out of the country to a different none mongering country. This way problems communicating is expected and would be easy to get her to use some app.

    I came close to being caught once while standing at the airport in POP at 3:00am when wife thought I was in New York. She heard an anouncement over the speakers in spanish and got real suspicious. Luckily she didn't hear good enough to understand what was said. So I was able to convince her that all anounements in JFK are in both languages. :). was still too damn close.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 03:35:06 PM »
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  • As for the passport... that is more difficult. Luckily mine has never asked to see it, but it could happen. The time I thought I may have been caught, I even ripped out a few pages. I have found that you can ask them to stamp on same page for entry snd exit, this makes it easier to rip out some evidence. I have been to a few countries that rip out pages with their stamp upon exit. Mostly middle east, but it's a plausible excuse if needed.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 09:56:40 PM »
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  • Thanks everyone for all the advice.  Much appreciated.  The passport could be an issue if we travel together again, but I'll just have to be conscious of it and make sure she doesn't see it.  I'm going to encourage her to use the WhatsApp texting app and hope she has no need to call me.  That part about hearing a message in Spanish would mean it was all over for me.  I'll try to test that with a buddy when I get there.  Damn...being married makes things complicated.  Thanks again for the info.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 10:01:07 PM »
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    Thanks everyone for all the advice.  Much appreciated.  The passport could be an issue if we travel together again, but I'll just have to be conscious of it and make sure she doesn't see it.  I'm going to encourage her to use the WhatsApp texting app and hope she has no need to call me.  That part about hearing a message in Spanish would mean it was all over for me.  I'll try to test that with a buddy when I get there.  Damn...being married makes things complicated.  Thanks again for the info.
    something else u could do it if comes time to travel with her, just report your passport damaged.  spill coffee all over it, have the dog chew it up, something, and get a new one.

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    Thanks everyone for all the advice.  Much appreciated.  The passport could be an issue if we travel together again, but I'll just have to be conscious of it and make sure she doesn't see it.  I'm going to encourage her to use the WhatsApp texting app and hope she has no need to call me.  That part about hearing a message in Spanish would mean it was all over for me.  I'll try to test that with a buddy when I get there.  Damn...being married makes things complicated.  Thanks again for the info.
    something else u could do it if comes time to travel with her, just report your passport damaged.  spill coffee all over it, have the dog chew it up, something, and get a new one.

    My parents are super nosey and we had a family trip scheduled for February. We were traveling between Vancouver and Seattle for a cheaper flight to Hawaii. My dad likes to have all the passports in his possession for the border crossing. I was worried they'd see my 3 trips to the DR I never told them about. Cut up my passport and reported it lost and got a new one.

    Though I realized after that I'm sure the US and Canada share travel details and I have been questioned before about previous trips but luckily they didn't ask me anything.

    So even with a clean passport the border guards will have records of your previous trips and if they ask you were your last trip was in the presence of your wife your fucked.

    I guess that could apply to anyone here. If you travel to mexico with the wife and upon return they could very easily ask why you make so many trips outside the country.
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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 11:20:53 AM »
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  • Again, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with both Ralphie and Phoenixdragon. Altering or damaging your passport can impact your ability to travel, or enter a country. I know people that have been refused entry into Costa Rica and Colombia for damaged passports and although I know the rigor will vary from country to country I personally wouldn't take chance. In this regard it might actually be preferable to go to Cuba, as you can request no passport stamp. from the government website:

    Damaged passport
    You should apply for a new passport if your current passport is damaged. If you travel with a damaged passport, you could face delays or be denied entry at border crossings, or on flights.

    A passport is considered damaged if it:

    impedes the identification of the holder;
    appears to have been altered or falsified; or
    could potentially cause problems or has been denied by an airline or at a point of entry due to perceived damage.
    Examples of damage to a passport:

    has been exposed to water or humidity
    has a tear in one or more pages
    contains unauthorized markings
    the information and/or photo have been altered or made less identifiable
    pages have been removed or torn out
    the cover and inside pages have come apart
    has been chewed by a child or pet
    other forms of damage that are not listed here
    Ultimately, border authorities may allow or refuse entry or exit for any reason, including the condition of a passport. An airline may also prevent a passenger from boarding a plane based on the condition of a passport (airline officials have knowledge of the entry requirements of international destinations).

    As for the spanish message, you should be aware that this can be a problem in passive phone mode too, even if your phone is turned off. depending on the model, and whether location services are activated. A network message in spanish will indicate that you're not available or out of the service area. The only safe way to travel with your phone in latin aerica is to pull the battery. Call forwarding also does not help. You could always get a second phone and leave your original phone in the U.S.  Check voicemail regularly and use spooftel to call from your second phone using your first phone's number. If you're proactive calling your wife she'll have no reason to call you. Schedule calls with her to avoid surprises. If she does call your number she'll get the voicemail for the first phone through the U.S. network.
    « Last Edit: July 22, 2014, 11:27:23 AM by shadowman »

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  • Yes Shadow, damaging your passport is a last to later option. When I did it, I ripped the pages after I was safely back in the states. Last time I went to DR, they asked about the missing pages to which I said my 2 year old had gotten ahold of it a few days before my trip. He laughed and said no more about it. This option is really as a last resort for a suspicious wife. Then I would recommend getting a new one before traveling again. Like I said, I did it after almost getting caught in pop.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 02:26:28 PM »
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  • Yeah, you might get away with it if they don't happen to notice, or if they do notice that they decide not to do anything about it. That's a mighty big "if" though, and I wouldn't want to risk my trip on it. It would be better to "lose" the passport and get another one, but you can only do this so many times, one would think, before the government comes down on you.

    The best way is to create a reason to be somewhere, if that's possible. Conferences, business meetings, trip with the boys, or use destinations where a passport stamp isn't necessary, like Canada, Mexico, Cuba. There may be others. I think Puerto Rico must probably be ok too, but don't know for sure. Maybe some of the caribbean islands. Again, don't know for sure.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
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  • Mobile phone service is different from traditional landline service.  With mobile service, both parties get charged, that's why phone companies love the mobile business.

    If your wife texts you from her ATT iPhone, she will definitely see something on her bill about Int'l texting for that month.  Depending on her plan, she may not be charged for the texts, some plans now allow some free Int'l texting.  But she will probably want to know why you were out of the country (assuming she thought you were in the country).

    I understand your predicament--no matter how carefully you plan everything with texting apps and spoofing software, you've still got 2 kids, and at any moment there could be some kind of emergency that requires her to contact you directly, immediately.

    The best option, at this point, is the "Damn, honey, I must have left my phone at home.  I'm sorry, but I will call you every day to make sure everything is OK."  Making sure, of course, that there is no incriminating evidence on your phone that you leave at home.

    I know this idea comes too late for you now, but my experience has been that the best way to hide something is to put it out in plain sight.  Ideally, you want to come up with some reason to put yourself in the DR.  That may be a tough one, but if you can pull it off, all of your other problems disappear.  Except, of course, for that moment when your wife calls you on the phone in the DR and some chica yells in your ear, "Fuck me, Papi".

    BTW - Never be embarrassed to post a trip report, whether it's good or bad, it's all valuable info.  And sometimes the fuck-ups can be half the fun.  None of us are experts at this, some of us have more experience than others, but we all have something to contribute.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
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  • Thanks for the additional info/advice everyone.  I actually told my wife when I went to the DR last year for a few days of "beaches, beer, and a book."  She definitely wouldn't go for it again so soon.  I think I'll take the phone and hope that checking in regularly will keep her at bay.  It's only Wed-Sat and hopefully keeping in contact regularly through the texting app will minimize the risk. 

    Worst case, she catches me and I'm forced to admit I lied.  I'll just tell her I'm burned out at work (true) and needed to get away from everything (true).  She'll be pissed but I don't think she'd divorce me over it. 

    Thanks again.  I'll check in when I get back.

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  • you have nothing to worry about, t-mobile offer free texting and free data while traveling aboard, just text her from your regular phone there shouldn't be any problem, and also i believe they charge 0.20 cent a minute for all phone calls, so don't worry, but to be on the safe side just go to your local T-mobile store and let the explain to you the details.

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    Again, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with both Ralphie and Phoenixdragon. Altering or damaging your passport can impact your ability to travel, or enter a country. I know people that have been refused entry into Costa Rica and Colombia for damaged passports and although I know the rigor will vary from country to country I personally wouldn't take chance. In this regard it might actually be preferable to go to Cuba, as you can request no passport stamp. from the government website:

    Damaged passport
    You should apply for a new passport if your current passport is damaged. If you travel with a damaged passport, you could face delays or be denied entry at border crossings, or on flights.

    A passport is considered damaged if it:

    impedes the identification of the holder;
    appears to have been altered or falsified; or
    could potentially cause problems or has been denied by an airline or at a point of entry due to perceived damage.
    Examples of damage to a passport:

    has been exposed to water or humidity
    has a tear in one or more pages
    contains unauthorized markings
    the information and/or photo have been altered or made less identifiable
    pages have been removed or torn out
    the cover and inside pages have come apart
    has been chewed by a child or pet
    other forms of damage that are not listed here
    Ultimately, border authorities may allow or refuse entry or exit for any reason, including the condition of a passport. An airline may also prevent a passenger from boarding a plane based on the condition of a passport (airline officials have knowledge of the entry requirements of international destinations).

    As for the spanish message, you should be aware that this can be a problem in passive phone mode too, even if your phone is turned off. depending on the model, and whether location services are activated. A network message in spanish will indicate that you're not available or out of the service area. The only safe way to travel with your phone in latin aerica is to pull the battery. Call forwarding also does not help. You could always get a second phone and leave your original phone in the U.S.  Check voicemail regularly and use spooftel to call from your second phone using your first phone's number. If you're proactive calling your wife she'll have no reason to call you. Schedule calls with her to avoid surprises. If she does call your number she'll get the voicemail for the first phone through the U.S. network.
    my idea was to get a new one.  get rid of the evidence.  the excuse to get a new one was to damage it.  not travel on a damaged passport

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    « Reply #19 on: July 23, 2014, 11:33:40 AM »
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  • My last trip to the DR in March I called up my BM and she said that the call showed up as the "Netherlands". I have an I-Phone with Verizon and she has a galaxy with t-moble. I laughed and told her yeah I'm in China. It worked. She thought her phone was acting up.

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    Re: Tips on keeping my trip secret from the wife?
    « Reply #20 on: July 23, 2014, 01:35:28 PM »
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  • Guillermo is on the right track.  See if it's possible to admit that you're going there, but for a 'valid' reason, and not the girls.
    Do you golf?
    Do you like cigars?
    Do you have any friends that she trusts, who may 'invite' you to go with them?
    Maybe a friend who wants to open a business there, etc., who needs your help, opinion, etc.
    Oh, my pal said that he'll buy my ticket; he has a lot of available miles.
    Do you like medications without needing a prescription?

    If she makes any wisecracks about the possibility of women, surely triggered by her miserable friends, or by our media, simply say.....are you crazy?  You think I'm going to risk getting sick, or robbed, etc., by prostitutes?!

    Lastly, leave enough money for her and the kids (?) to be content, and bring back some trinkets for them.


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    « Reply #21 on: July 24, 2014, 10:17:28 PM »
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  • I have a wife and travel 3 times a year and use all kind of excuses,  if u ever want to talk shoot me ur phone number i will call u

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  • I am new to the board and have never been to the DR but I have 18 trips to the PI, 11 to Thailand  and 4 to Cambodia.  My first trip to the DR is at the end of this month.

    Now my wife of 11 years is filipna and I meet her in a bar in angles city so she is always questioning my so called work travel.

    I have quarterly conferences in Miami according to my wife. I told her My cell reception in the hotel is  terrible but the wifi is great so I set up a magic jack account for her to reach me at anytime. It is a local number that she calls and it is a app on her cell and is done voip so there is no bill and when I call her it shows a local number calling her. Pick a location where you can get local merchindice.  I have a friend in Miami that will send me a couple shirts with the city name or some silly globe or key chain that shows you were there. I take that with me on my trip so I open my suit case when I get home and give her the gifts.   Best way tell her you are going to the city where you are changing planes.  You can buy the gifts in the airport and show your travel stubs for that leg of the trip. 

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  • LMAO that sounds exactly like me - i have and still do the same thing with the magic jack and the whole nine - i even have welcome to Miami photos -

    We really need to talk and share stories lol

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  • ***The following message is a thread hi-jack.  This temporary hi-jack is brief and to the point.  In no way is it intended to derail this stimulating thread***

    Every unmarried man on this board needs to read this thread.  Fellas, do NOT get married.  For the sake of your sanity.  Every cock should be free of shame and guilt.  The hiding, deceptions, and extreme attempts to throw off one's "better half" so that the cock can play in the Dominican Republic is a life lesson.  A lesson where a man will gamble his relationship, his children and a lifetime of accrued financial assets for that sweet Dominican poon.  ;D

    Heed the writings of these poor and desperate souls before ye also share their miserable fate.

    Do not get married.  EVER.  There is NO benefit for a man to marry. 

    ***Thank you. Please proceed.***

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