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what does post covid mongering look like?
« on: August 23, 2020, 11:51:50 AM »
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  • Greetings gentlemen would love to get feedback on this. Regardless of your political affiliations we can all i hope accept the fact that covid is real and I understand the low mortality rates but considering the bulk of us who do this regularly are north of 40 how are you proceeding once a petri dish such as Blackbeard's opens up. We have been complaining for years about no gfe no this or that all related to intimacy. Do we now rush back and french kiss these girls, go down on them(as we often do)?  because that's what many of us do and if we can't get basic intimacy what's the point? I would think heading back now would be a gold mine for gfe with tourism down the girls may be more compliant and appreciative considering how long it has been without steady higher paying clients.  so imagine you go down there and kiss or whatever us perverts do to 5-7 girls on a trip. We can't account for what they have done with clients just previous to you nor for what the mongerer who just had her 30min prior to you has done either during his trip sofar. Granted if there is a problem I am part of it because I have complained about the gfe for years so when I head back I most certainly will not be happy with any restrictions physically. That being said I have-not heard of any protocol changes  at bb's but I can't think of anything they could do that would offer actual protection.these girls have been without regular clients for months. so it has been a buyers market. in order to eat these girls have been doing things they wouldn't ordinarily do for a lesser fee with locals. bb's would have to test everyday to insure safety and you still wouldn't be safe. how do we stop a fellow mongerer from picking up a local girl then coming back to bb's and then infecting the lot? My position is not for or against I just wanted to get feedback from all of you on what you felt regarding the new risks involved. I would prefer to hear from guys who have actually thought about it not the ones who don't care and throw caution to the wind. I know the guys who go bareback regularly and I don't think this applies to you because if hiv or herpes doesnt scare you this won't either.On a personal note i am heading back just not on the first wave of guests. I actually might wait another couple months to see if the mansion opens up because I prefer medellin which actually offers a worse solution since there is zero regulation there and many girls are picked up off the streets(facebook is basically off the streets) I want to see how this plays out especially being just a couple months from flu season. Please let me know your thoughts!

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #1 on: August 23, 2020, 12:20:38 PM »
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  • covid is real, no doubt about that.

    the death rate, very over inflated. i dont think anybody could give you a true death rate per 1000 but know that it is not the big numbers they try to scare us with.

    it concerns me but does not scare me.  we cannot keep ourselves from catching the flu, even if we hole up at home and the same applies to covid.

    time to get on with living life

    at the end of the day, we just have to watch those we are around and avoid those that appear sick.  much the same as we would with somebody with the flu or a bad cold

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #2 on: August 23, 2020, 05:01:47 PM »
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  • I concur with what Ralphie says.  Things will become more normal once an effective vaccine is available.  Lots of promising work on that front.

    In the meantime......

    My biggest fear is getting it outside of the US where medical care may not be the best and not being able to get back.  So I am limiting my trips to 3-4 days.

    I am also trying to only see some of my regulars where I have a bit more confidence in their personal prevention habits. I don't go to the compounds any more.  When I was in the DR last month the chicas thought I had gone mad because I would go in to the cabaña and spray the shit out of it with Lysol before touching anything!

    So yes, I am concerned and have taken some personal protective strategies but I am not going to allow Covid to sideline me.  And I am over 60.

    We each have to do what's comfortable for us.






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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #3 on: August 23, 2020, 09:14:59 PM »
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  • Be 70 like me, & type 2 diabetic.. LOL I'm supposed to go to Medellin mid-Oct., but doesn't look good.  Might cancel that til first of Dec.  I'm looking to go to BB 1/15-21, 2021.  I'll just be cautious. I look at it like everything in life has risk. Might as well die happy.  :fuckbanana: I'm in good shape otherwise, in fact I've lost my gut with being isolated.  I haven't eaten out once.  Just cooking on my own.
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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #4 on: August 25, 2020, 01:50:48 AM »
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  • This question is mostly aimed at medical professionals.  I know there are available supplements that are supposed to build up T cells and help immunity against viruses like Llysine and taking vitamins some believe helps.  Far out theories like taking Pepcid AC, etc. lessen the severity. 

    Is there anything out there that will ease the mind with some credibility?

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #5 on: August 25, 2020, 06:25:36 AM »
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  • Mabuhay/Hola/Sawasdee Sir Jackel !!

    First, thank you for starting this Thread. And I do not have the ability to forsee the future (unfortunately), so I rarely try to predict it anymore. So often my patients ask me how will their disease develop, or how long will they live, or will they need more surgeries, or will a therapy be effective or tolerable for them, or so many more things. And I cannot ignore their questions, because they are honestly seeking my expertise, my experience, my guidance. So I want to contribute to your question, too, but have my limitations.

    First, I am not an Infectious Disease (ID) physician, but I have known many of them over the past years, and count many as true friends. We oncologists kind of go "the other direction": avoiding infections wherever possible (because many of our immunocompromised patients have decreased ability to fight infections, such as when they are neutropenic). And while I lead the research efforts for our medical group and am very, very well acquainted with much research ongoing in the pharma industry, I am not fully versed on everything that every company is doing. But I know a LOT about what is being doing (I speak often with colleagues involved in clinical trials on therapies and vaccines for the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

    First, I continue to read nonsense statements, like some on this Forum make, that try to diminish whether this virus is real, whether this pandemic is real. Trust me: IT IS REAL. Having worked several shifts in hospitals to relieve frontliners (hospitalists/intensivists and pulmonologists), I have cared for seriously ill patients. It humbled me to care for ventilator patients (especially since I don't usually care for patients who are that seriously ill). After one 12-hour shift, the young pulmonologist who replaced me (he was about half my age) said to me "good job, doctor". Wow. Imagine that. I was able to do a good job (in his eyes) with ventilator patients. So when some "Expert" says something about this virus being not real, I am reminded of this scene from Steve Martin in "The Jerk":

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    With that said, there is (IMHO) serious fear that has been created by the news media in an effort to scare the public about this situation. There are likely political purposes behind this, but I'll leave that alone. For example, we still do not know a true mortality incidence from the Covid-19 infections. It appears (key word: appears) that the mortality is somewhere in the 0.25 - 0.6% rate, meaning that 2.5 to 6 people in 1000 who are infected will die. This is clearly higher than we see with influenza (perhaps 5-10-fold higher). But it is not the "3-4%" that was initially discussed (the real rate appears to be 10-fold lower than that). And we know that certain factors clearly pre-dispose one to adverse outcomes, including elevated BMI/obesity (we don't know why), elevated blood sugar, higher blood lipids (statin use appears to have a substantial beneficial impact on survival), certain blood types (we really have no idea on this one), age/gender/race, and others.

    Based on ongoing clinical trials, I believe that we will have effective therapies, such as monoclonal antibodies, before the end of 2020. Perhaps in the next 2-3 months. This concept is hardly revolutionary !! We have used antibodies for other diseases for years (including for rabies, which is also a virus). I believe that these will be very effective, and will substantially benefit the incidence of mortality. Companies such as Lilly, Regeneron/Roche, and Astra-Zeneca (among others) are working on these as I write these words. I also believe that we will have our first effective vaccines before the end of 2020. There are MANY of these in development. And I believe that the protection that they afford will be good, and reasonably durable. So I am hopeful that we are nearing a point where we can be vaccinated to provide effective prevention, and we will have therapies for those who become infected.

    Now, about whether I will go back to Blackbeards right now, here is my thinking: I avoid groups wherever possible. As you know from another Thread that I am writing right now, I went to a small, private resort for 5 nights (about 10 days ago). They screen all the girls (and also take temperatures twice a day on everyone), and the girls come and stay for awhile (one had been there 10 days). They rarely leave. They have only a small staff, and because of the curfew, some of them come and stay for 3, 4, 5, or 6 days without leaving the resort (they work all day and into the evening, and cannot go home at night, so stay for 24 hours). THESE ARE NOT PERFECT SOLUTIONS !! Someone could still come that is infected. So I know that I would be fooling myself if I think that I am safe, because I am not. But the probability seems low to me. Now at BBs, you will have many people crowded around the bar, and the dining area. And girls coming and going and coming and going. And I just don't feel comfortable yet with that big "group scene". My humble opinion is that the more people that you have gathered and coming and going in a small space, the more likely infection spread is. It is simple infection control thinking.

    I will likely resume my time back at BBs when there are effective vaccines and effective therapies. Maybe in early 2020, I will have been vaccinated, and will have the comfort of knowing that therapies exist. I agree totally with Sir Jethro Gibbs who says above:

    I am also trying to only see some of my regulars where I have a bit more confidence in their personal prevention habits. I don't go to the compounds any more.  When I was in the DR last month the chicas thought I had gone mad because I would go in to the cabaña and spray the shit out of it with Lysol before touching anything!

    His perspective matches mine.

    Thanks, again, for a good Thread, Sir.

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #6 on: August 25, 2020, 08:31:30 AM »
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  • Thanks for that mars. The question was really a short term one. I also believe we will have medical solution a year from now. Like most of us I have had to cancel trips because of covid and I found myself weighing common sense vs My personal sexual perversion in deciding if I should go when bb's first opens up. I like the smaller places idea and the set up but it may be out of my budget as they tend to run 1k a day.

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #7 on: August 25, 2020, 09:03:41 AM »
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  • regarding the previous  post do you guys know of any bb's alternatives where there are just a few guests  in a villa with the prices reasonable. the 3 or 4 I know of start at around a grand a night. I just can't see myself paying that kind of money. I think around 500 a night is fair. I might diy and rent a place and organize a few girls and have them provide negative tests on entry
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    regarding the previous  post do you guys know of any bb's alternatives where there are just a few guests  in a villa with the prices reasonable. the 3 or 4 I know of start at around a grand a night. I just can't see myself paying that kind of money. I think around 500 a night is fair. I might diy and rent a place and organize a few girls and have them provide negative tests on entry

    Mabuhay/Hola/Sawasdee Sir Jackel,

    Thanks for your message, and I truly understand exactly what you are saying !! Even for me some of these places are pretty pricey ...

    Here is a thought: I approached the owner of several different private resorts/villas (I personally know three of them) and asked them for a quote on a rate that was room/food/beverages, but no girls. I have a pretty good idea of what they pay the girls (whether Latina or European), and that is a HUGE part of their expenses. Anyway, all quoted me rates that were substantially less than their $1195 - 1695 per night rates (which, like you, I really didn't want to pay). And I already have a pretty good "Little Black Book" of contacts (such as in my Report on my time there in DR on August 12-19 when I brought in three "local" DR girls). You may want to try the same. I am thinking that they are pretty hungry for business right now. AND (here is a key point) when they have European girls there, they are paying the girls whether they work or not. For example, a European girl may be guaranteed $200 a day for being at the resort (after all, she can't go back home to Ukraine each night ...). So if the owner has 2 or 3 or 4 of them there, he is forking out $400, $600, $800 a day. So having a guest who may choose one of them for one day (and for this, the girl gets paid, typically, about $300-400 for 24 hours with a man) and "take her expense off his books" (plus he also makes money when you are there).

    Bottom line: some of the small resorts of 3, or 4, or 5 rooms are pretty hungry to get even one or two guys into their resorts. So, even if you are only paying $500 or $600 a night for a resort + food + beverages, he is better off than $0 a night plus the costs of the girls.

    Just a thought, Jackel. It worked for me, and I have a repeat in October. While I was at the resort, there were 2 other guys on night one, 1 other guy on night two, and I was "El Rey" (the King of the resort) all by myself on nights 3, 4, and 5.

    PM me if you would like to discuss further, Sir !!

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #9 on: August 25, 2020, 10:16:58 AM »
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  • Thanks, It might be worth it for us  guys on the board to band together and rent a place. I did not realize that about the ukraine girls though....interesting!

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    Thanks, It might be worth it for us  guys on the board to band together and rent a place. I did not realize that about the ukraine girls though....interesting!

    Mabuhay/Hola/Sawasdee Sir Jackel !!

    If you guys are going to band together to rent a nice villa, I might be interested, too !!

    I learned that about the Euro girls from two different owners. First, they have ALL pointed out to me that they cannot pay ANY of the travel expenses for the girl to come over. When I asked why, they said "because then we are soliciting and even engaging in trafficking possibly". OK, that makes sense. And a couple of trips ago, when I had seen photos of one of the potential Euro girls, I inquired about whether she might be interested in visiting. I was told that she probably would, but as one owner asked me "you do realize that I pay her $200 a day to be at my villa no matter whether you select her or not, right? So if I bring her and you don't select her, you still have to cover my $200 a day cost that I pay her". Aha. Very interesting. I have since confirmed with the owner of a different villa that there is a similar price that he pays each European girl. As he said, "she has to pay her own round trip ticket. She doesn't want to risk not getting selected many nights, and being in the hole for her expenses". So it sounds like that is their practice. It was news to me also, Sir Jackel !!

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #11 on: August 27, 2020, 02:32:08 PM »
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  • This was just posted on Big Lee's Facebook page.  The numbers are trending in the right direction.  There was a comment that the new government might extend the curfew for 45 days more into mid-October. 

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    This was just posted on Big Lee's Facebook page.  The numbers are trending in the right direction.  There was a comment that the new government might extend the curfew for 45 days more into mid-October.

    does the curfew apply to within gated communities like Costamber?

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    This was just posted on Big Lee's Facebook page.  The numbers are trending in the right direction.  There was a comment that the new government might extend the curfew for 45 days more into mid-October.

    does the curfew apply to within gated communities like Costamber?


    Mabuhay/Hola/Sawasdee Sir OldNewbie !!

    I am not an expert on this, but I received a newsletter yesterday from Blackbeards, and here is what he says:

    Curfew ...
    As part of the continued state of emergency all Dominicans and tourist will be subject to a curfew from: Monday - Friday; 5:00 AM -7:00 PM and Saturday - Sunday; 5:00 AM - 5:00 PM. This curfew (for now) will extend through October 18th, 2020.
    Employees and Chicas ...
    Unbelievably! The government has decided not to provide travel permits for either employees or chicas during the curfew hours. The great news is that all of my night time employees and chicas have agreed to help circumvent this requirement
    (travel permit) and have accepted my offer to stay at the hotel and provide all necessary services.

    Based on this information, I would interpret that within the walls of Blackbeards (which is a private business), they may conduct their business during whatever hours they wish. But once outside the walls, the curfew applies. This is what I experienced at a private villa on the beach where I stayed in mid-August, too. Namely, once inside (including on their private beach behind the resort), everything was fine. But most of the staff (with a couple of exceptions) stayed overnight. A few had been issued passes so that they could drive home late in the evening.

    Hope this helps Sir.

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    Re: what does post covid mongering look like?
    « Reply #14 on: September 04, 2020, 01:10:36 AM »
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  • Thanks, I also received the newsletter from BB and interpreted it the same way.  So, on the weekends if you wanted to go to let's say Solo Mio or any restaurant in Costamber's gated community for dinner, you would need to be back at BB by 5pm!  Last time there we had a beach party at night in Costamber so that would be off limits. :(

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  • There is now a police substation inside Costambar so there is an increased police presence along with Costambar's own security.  I doubt they would be amenable to folks walking around after curfew and certainly not at the beach.

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